Beth Sarim

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  August WT: DF'ing renamed "Removed." AKA: GB re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.

  august watchtower has finally been leaked.

  disfellowshipping?

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  Beth Sarim

  Something I keep thinking about .

  Wasnt there some ''big announcement" which turned out to be a big nothing burger in 2005? In changes to not using that term "disfellowshipped"??

  When someone was kicked out if the Borg starting in 2005?? It was just announced that so & so is ""no longer a jw"". But they wouldn't say ""disfellowshipped "" from 2005 onward??

  I dont think I've ever heard someone being announced as ""disfellowshipped" from the platform since back then.

  You guessed it. Probably legal ramifications.
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  Greeting a person(who was removed from the congregation) at the Kingdom Hall now becomes a matter of conscience

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | august 2024. help for those who are removed from the congregation.

  14 does what we have considered mean that we would completely ignore a person who has been removed from the congregation?

  not necessarily.

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  Beth Sarim

  ""Let us not run ahead of the 'organization chariot' and speak to the disfellowshipped victim more than we have to"" !!!

  
  
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  Why the term "disfellowshipped " was removed

  by raymond frantz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://youtu.be/ags07jlopcy?si=g9ra1jqksuuauyax.

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  Beth Sarim

  Conscience matter? LoL right.

  And,,

  ""We treat people how they would want to be treated."" LoL,,right again. ROFL 🤣🤣
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  August issue is now up on JW.com

  by ozziepost in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.

  cheers,.

  ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).

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  Beth Sarim

  What must be really irritating to the gb & organization how this was talked about even before it being released.

  
  
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  August WT: DF'ing renamed "Removed." AKA: GB re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.

  august watchtower has finally been leaked.

  disfellowshipping?

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  Beth Sarim

  And,,thiis is the reason why "questioning" anything is hated..

  The Borg needs 'unity'

  We hear it all the time. Any questioning can blow open the door to developing " critical thinking" skills. The Borg cant have that.
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  Greeting a person(who was removed from the congregation) at the Kingdom Hall now becomes a matter of conscience

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | august 2024. help for those who are removed from the congregation.

  14 does what we have considered mean that we would completely ignore a person who has been removed from the congregation?

  not necessarily.

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  Beth Sarim

  This is all a legal ploy in attempt for the Borg to look like a gentler religion.

  As they attempt to appeal the Norwegian ruling next February.

  Disfellowshipped or removal from the congregation has the same outcome on the person that is shunning.

  Turfing the disfellowshipping name makes it appear the Borg is attempting to be less punitive & kinder. Same results though.
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  Article: Pennsylvania man sentenced amid JW sexual abuse investigation

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.abc27.com/pennsylvania/pennsylvania-man-sentenced-amid-jehovahs-witness-sexual-abuse-investigation/.

  (whtm) – a reading man will serve up to 46 years in prison amid the pennsylvania attorney general‘s investigation into alleged sexual abuse of jehovah’s witnesses congregation members.. luis manuel ayala-velasquez, 56, was arrested last year after a grand jury investigation where sexual assault charges were recommended against more than a dozen members of the jehovah’s witnesses faith.. read more: https://www.abc27.com/pennsylvania/pennsylvania-man-sentenced-amid-jehovahs-witness-sexual-abuse-investigation/.

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  Beth Sarim

  Thanks for the updates!
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  So a JW can date an unbelieving person...

  by silentbuddha in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  but the entire congregation is not to be informed or mark the person.

  the only repercussions are that the individual who is aware of it can decide to "mark" them and not go to the local club or bar with the individual, but they are still obligated to go door to door in the ministry with them, and even speak to them at the kn as if nothing is wrong and not feel obligated to tell anyone else?

  this is crazy.. so they are also basically saying that a person can carry on a romantic (but none sexual) relationship with an unbeliever and still go out in service and participate in meetings?

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  Beth Sarim

  Its all about the politics.

  And how much the elders or,,, elderettes cant stand you.
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  Why the term "disfellowshipped " was removed

  by raymond frantz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://youtu.be/ags07jlopcy?si=g9ra1jqksuuauyax.

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  Beth Sarim

  "Disfellowshipped" was probably only was removed for "legal reasons"" of course,,as usual.

  But,, those who are "removed from the congregations" are treated the same way as disassociated. With the same result of full on shunning to ensue.

  But yeah,,"disfellowshipping" was removed for legal reasons. In light of the Norway developments & because of legal ramifications,,,as always.
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  August WT: DF'ing renamed "Removed." AKA: GB re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.

  august watchtower has finally been leaked.

  disfellowshipping?

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  Beth Sarim

  This is one aspect the Borg employs so efficiently.

  They hold loved ones and family captive,, so the ones who feel like leaving,,held hostage.. They cant leave.

  As Road to nowhere said. You see?